Money Talk With Tiff
Episode•April 23, 2020•26 min

Paying for College with Dr. Andrea Johnson | Ep. 36

Have kids or are thinking about going back to school? You need to listen to this!  Join Tiffany as she sits down with Dr. Andrea Johnson as they discuss how to pay for college. About Our Guest Dr. Andrea Johnson is the owner of ANJ Consulting Services, where she assists clients with developing solutions to their financial problems through individual consulting, workshops, and courses. She also holds a bachelor's and master's degree in sociology (North Carolina A&T State University and North Carolina State University respectively), a doctoral degree in Leadership Studies from North Carolina A&T State University and has completed the coursework for the CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ Certification Education Program through Wake Forest University. She has written several books on entrepreneurship, credit, and college planning, and is also the founder and president of BRIDGE, a nonprofit organization that promotes financial literacy and economic empowerment. Dr. Johnson is a native of Thomasville, NC. Follow her on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ANJConsulting Follow her on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ANJConsultingServices/ Follow her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doctoroffinance/   Don't forget to rate, subscribe, and review! This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy

Key Takeaways

  • 1

    Start scholarship hunting as early as age 13

    Begin searching and applying for scholarships no later than the summer before senior year of high school

    Treat scholarship applications like a part-time job for teens to bring money into the household

    Consistency is key—apply until you can't remember how many you've submitted

  • 2

    Scholarships, grants, and loans are fundamentally different

    Grants and scholarships do not need to be repaid; loans must be repaid with interest

    Scholarships typically come from private organizations; grants are often government-affiliated

    Maximum Pell Grant is around $5,200 per school year—government won't give a full ride

  • 3

    Merit-based and non-traditional scholarships exist beyond need or grades

    Many scholarships ignore income, assets, or GPA entirely

    Opportunities include raffles, video contests, creative submissions, and demographic-specific awards

    FastWeb and similar free databases match applicants to scholarships based on profile details

  • 4

    Federal student loans have serious long-term consequences

    Defaulting on federal loans can lead to garnishment of Social Security wages

    Parents who co-sign are also at risk of garnishment

    Hardship programs exist to keep loans in good standing even if payments can't be made

  • 5

    529 plans and early financial preparation are critical

    Open 529 plans when children are young to allow time for growth

    By senior year, students should have organized lists of leadership roles, activities, and test scores ready

    Scholarship applications require organization, scheduled time, and intentional effort

Intro

  • Tiffany Grant interviews Dr. Andrea Johnson about strategies for paying for college, including scholarships, grants, loans, and long-term financial planning.
  • Dr. Andrea Johnson is the owner of ANJ Consulting Services, holds degrees in sociology and leadership studies, has completed CFP coursework, authored books on entrepreneurship, credit, and college planning, and founded the nonprofit BRIDGE for financial literacy.

– When to Start Applying for Scholarships

  • Dr. Johnson recommends starting scholarship searches as early as age 13 and no later than the summer before senior year.

You actually should start, you can start as early as 13 years of age looking for scholarships. So if you have 13-year-olds, then I tell parents, make that their part-time job, bring some money into the house.

  • Waiting until senior year creates unnecessary stress due to SAT/ACT testing, extracurriculars, and application deadlines.

– Finding Scholarships and Staying Organized

  • FastWeb is a free database recommended for high school students (age 14+), college students, and graduate students.
  • Dr. Johnson offers a webinar called "How to Find Thousands in Scholarships" and authored the book "How to Save Thousands on College Tuition."

People say, how many scholarships should we apply for? And I tell them, until you can't remember, it needs to be consistent.

– Scholarships vs Grants vs Loans

  • Grants and scholarships do not require repayment; loans must be repaid with interest.
  • Scholarships often come from private organizations; grants are frequently government-based (e.g., Pell Grant via FAFSA).

Compound interest is nice when it's in a bank account, but it's not good when that interest is adding up on your loan.

– How Scholarships Are Disbursed and Used

  • Each scholarship has its own rules—some send checks to students, others pay schools directly.
  • Dr. Johnson's nonprofit BRIDGE requires transcripts showing completion of the first year before disbursing funds.

When you apply for a scholarship, they're going to tell you exactly what they will fund, how they will fund it, how you will receive your check, and what you can use it for.

– 529 Plans and Early Financial Preparation

  • 529 plans are ideal for young children to allow time for savings to grow; not suitable if the child is already in 11th grade.
  • Tiffany shares that opening 529 accounts for her children was a long-term gift to herself.

If you have younger children, you know, definitely open up that 529 plan so that you can have those.

– Debunking Scholarship Myths

  • Many assume high income, assets, or lower grades disqualify families from scholarships.
  • Merit-based and non-traditional scholarships exist that ignore income, assets, and GPA.

There are scholarships out there where you don't even have to write essays for that. Like there are legitimate raffles that you can put your name in and do it every month.

– Managing Existing Student Loan Debt

  • Federal loans can lead to garnishment of Social Security wages upon default; co-signers are also at risk.
  • Dr. Johnson offers a webinar titled "Student Loan Debt: There Is Life After."

If your kids don't want to apply for scholarships, make them take out them loans themselves.

Books Mentioned

  • How to Save Thousands on College Tuition by Dr. Andrea Johnson

Resources

  • How to Find Thousands in Scholarships (Webinar)video
  • Student Loan Debt: There Is Life After (Webinar)video
  • FastWebtool
  • FAFSAtool

Topics

scholarshipsstudent loanscollege planninggrants529 plansfinancial literacypaying for collegeFAFSAmerit-based aidnonprofit scholarships
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